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Korrekta stämskruvar på Firebird VII non reverse 
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Post Korrekta stämskruvar på Firebird VII non reverse
Hej, har en gammal non reverse Firebird VII (ca 1965) med fula grover-stämmisar på.

Har googlat lite men är osäker på vilken sort det ska vara i original. Har sett en modell V med alla stämskruvar på gemensam bottenplatta med på en VII ska det väl vara 6 st lösa Kluson i mässing, eller?

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15 Dec 2016, 22:36
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Post Re: Korrekta stämskruvar på Firebird VII non reverse
Eller så ska det vara en sådan här trots allt, svårt att hitta info.

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Post Re: Korrekta stämskruvar på Firebird VII non reverse
Jag är inte speciellt insatt i spörsmålet men denna sajt känner du förmodligen redan till http://guitarhq.com därifrån kommer följande...

"Tuners
During the 1950's and 1960's, Gibson used Kluson tuners almost exclusively. There were some exceptions; starting in 1959 you could special order Grover tuners instead of Klusons on many mid to upper line models including the Les Paul Custom and J-200 models. By 1969, Gibson starting using tuners with the "Gibson Deluxe" name on them, but these were actually made by Kluson. More info on Kluson tuners can be found here. Again Phillips head screws started to be used at Gibson in 1939 (the phillips head screw was original patented in 1933). Prior to 1939, all screws should be slot style.
Kluson Deluxe Tuner specs (models including 3-on-a-plate and "tulip" designs):

1947 to early 1952:
"Kluson Deluxe" in a single vertical line on the ribbed metal tuner cover (aka "Single Line"). "PAT. APPLD." stamped on the bottom edge of the cover (viewable without removing tuner from guitar). NO outside hole on the metal cover for the tuner worm shaft. On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "2356766 PAT. APPLD." The exterior lubrication holes can be either small or large, or even no lubrication hole (rare). Tulip plastic tuners knobs have a single ring around them. These tuners are often called "Single Line, Single Ring, No Hole, Pat Applied".
1952-1953:
"No Line" Kluson tuners with no vertical name marking on the exterior gear cover. The exterior "PAT. APPLD." stamp is gone. Still no outside hole in the metal tuner cover for the tuner worm shaft. The exterior lubrication holes can be either small or large. On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "2356766 PAT. APPLD." Tulip plastic tuners knobs have a single ring around them. These tuners are often called "No Line, Single Ring, No Shaft Hole".
1953 to mid-1956:
"No Line" Kluson tuners with no vertical name marking on the exterior gear cover. There is still now an outside hole in the metal tuner cover for the tuner worm shaft. The exterior lubrication holes can be either small or large. On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "2356766 PAT. APPLD." Tulip plastic tuners knobs have a single ring around them. These tuners are often called "No Line, Single Ring".
Mid-1956 to late-1958:
Single line "Kluson Deluxe" in a single vertical line on the ribbed metal tuner cover. The exterior lubrication holes can be either small or large. On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "2356766 PAT. APPLD." Tulip plastic tuners knobs have a single ring around them. These tuners are often called "Single Line, Single Ring, Pat Appld".
Late-1958 to mid-1960:
Single line "Kluson Deluxe" in a single vertical line on the ribbed metal tuner cover. The exterior lubrication holes can be either small or large (though most are large hole). On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "D-169400 PATENT NO." Tulip plastic tuners knobs have a single ring around them. These tuners are often called "Single Line, Single Ring, Pat Number".
Mid-1960 to 1963:
Two plastic rings on the plastic "tulip" tuner knob. "Kluson Deluxe" still in a single vertical row. On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "D-169400 PATENT NO." The exterior lubrication holes are the small type. These tuners are often called "Single Line, Double Ring".
1964-1969:
"Kluson Deluxe" in TWO vertical lines on the ribbed metal tuner cover. On the bottom side of the tuners stamped into the metal it says "D-169400 PATENT NO." The exterior lubrication holes are the large type. On keystone tuners, the buttons becomehttp://guitarhq.com/kluson.html have a slight green tint to them. These tuners are often called "Double Line, Double Ring".
1969-1974:
Now a double lined "Gibson Deluxe" replaces the double line "Kluson Deluxe". Also the bottom side stamp "D-169400 PATENT NO." is much deeper and bolder. The base plate for the tuners also has a more rounded look to it with the edges less defined. This happened because the dies that stamped out this part were wearing out. The original Kluson tuners company went out of business in 1974 so this style of tuner was not made again until the 1990s when WD Guitar Products bought the Kluson name (and reissued these tuners)."

Kolla du sedan denna länk (hyperlänk som inte följde med i textkopieringen ovan) http://guitarhq.com/kluson.html så får du ytterligare lite detaljinfo.

Bläddrar du ner lite här står en del om Firebird http://guitarhq.com/gibson5.html

Hoppas att det leder dig till en hållbar slutsats, vilken väg det än tar. :D

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16 Dec 2016, 18:33
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Post Re: Korrekta stämskruvar på Firebird VII non reverse
Tack för svar, mycket bra info där om Kluson. Finns väldigt lite info på nätet om just min modell men tror nu att det ska vara "6-on-a-plate" i mässing.


17 Dec 2016, 03:05
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